Posts by The Fall Guy

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Marked

by Normalfulla in

ok , my wife and i have faded for a year and a half , i won't bore u with all the details but my wife just got confirmation that her sister got a visit some time ago saying we are marked and my sister also got the same visit in which we were described as dangerous, now for my wife , she has not spoken 1 bad word to anyone about the org apart from me (she woke me up ) the elders came around while i wasn't home and bailed her up but she said she wasn't comfortable talking to them without me there ,so the result ?......

let's do a round of all their friends and say shit about them because we can't df them but let's get them treated the same as if they were .... yeah yeah that's a good idea .... stupid mofos!

out to just wreck the reputation of any defectors from the org .

The Fall Guy

I have relatives who were subjected to a marking talk in the past 18 months. Their crime? The husband assumed headship of his family and refused to discuss a personal family situation with elders. Unforgiveable!

Defamation of character can't be proven - because no names are ever mentioned when a "marking" takes place. The congregation is left to figure out who the pariahs being described are.

Elders are all now generally slimy scum-bags, because deep down they know what they're doing is brutal & vicious. "We were only obeying orders" will be their cry.

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What would you say?

by Freedom rocks in

if you had 2 minutes with an old witness friend or with a family member to convince them the 'truth' is a lie and the gb isnt being directed by god what would you say to get their attention that might make them question their beliefs?.

The Fall Guy

Hard as it is not to tell a JW that they are believing a certain GB lie as opposed to a Bible truth, (e.g. you must confess your seriously juicy sins to 3 elders) posing the statement as a question may plant a seed in the JW mind, rather than inciting them to adopt "apostate defence mode" and clamming up.

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My Boyfriend's Family Wants to Meet Mine (My Parent's are JWs) Help!

by LaurenM in

so i have been "faded" for approximately 2.5 years.

my parents know i haven't attended a meeting in quite some time, but don't know that i have been dating a guy for about eight months.

we really love each other and his family is super sweet.

The Fall Guy

Sad to say, but it's certain that you're not going to come out of this unscathed.

Sooner or later, your parents will find out about your "worldly" boyfriend. You can then expect an ultimatum from them - it's either "God's organization," or the boyfriend. And of course, the threat that you will be cutting yourself off from them by your choice. Get ready.

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Evangelical Cult's Miracle Giant Carrots

by The Fall Guy in

jw
friends

how can the wtbts cult compete against such proof?????????.

at 22 mins.

45 secs.

The Fall Guy

How can the WTBTS cult compete against such proof?????????

At 22 mins. 45 secs. the film-maker makes a profound statement which fully applies to the JW mindset & other cults - don't question the teachings or business empire;

"The truth is bad for business."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBNbSqxUbi0

At least the WTBTS doesn't have its own corporate jet - yet!

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Conversation

by jdash in

so this morning i had a conversation with my grandmother about going out in service.

remind you i'm only 17. i tried to ask her why i had to go out in service if this isn't what i believe in and whatnot.

she went on saying basically these are the rules for this house.

The Fall Guy

jdash - As others have advised you, bite your tongue. You are not in a good position at the moment to teach any JW about TTATT, but don't worry, you will have tons of time and opportunity to do so in the coming years.

Ride out the next few months until you are no longer a minor, then fade rapidly - stating "private & personal" reasons. Best wishes.

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Lurkers

by Freedom rocks in

do you think elders and gb members monitor this site to catch people?.

The Fall Guy

In any business it would be negligent stupidity not to monitor public opinion/press reports/media forums to see what your enemies/competitors were saying about you.

The WTBTS is first & foremost a business, and as such, you can bet your house on it that they will have assigned "spiritually mature brothers" to police sites such as this - all in the name of identifying copyright infringements no doubt.

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This is my story

by paradiseseeker in

i've already posted in this forum but i haven't told you my story.

nowadays i'm a pimo in my late 20s from spain.. i was born in the cult and i can say that during my whole childhood and most of my teenage years i believed in this.

however, i felt that here was something wrong with me, as i wasn't comfortable telling people i was jw, talking about jw stuff, nor did i feel "excited" and "grateful" whenever a watchtower publication told me that i should.

The Fall Guy

Best wishes Paradiseseekeer.

You've got your life-course decided, now you have to decide how "gentle" or "hard" your exit from the cult will be. There are are consequences associated with both choices. I hope you emerge as unscathed as possible.

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Welcome to all the newbies and lurkers that have joined this forum lately.

by smiddy3 in

jw
friends

i`m sure you have all noticed the ever increasing number of newbies and lurkers who have visited this site over the past months and i am sure we could all collectively welcome them to this site and support them on learning the ttatt .

and helping them to navigate how they can look up older publications and quotes of the wtb&ts that they would rather remain hidden.. we all know jehovah`s witnesses /governing body never apologizes for mistakes they make they just don`t mention them anymore and explain it away as new light from god.. actually a big cop out.. welcome to all you who are new to this site .. every day their seems to be someone new posting which is great .. and if this is any indication of what is happening in all other ex jw sites the wtb&ts are in deep trouble .

.

The Fall Guy

Well said Smiddy.

I now have to catch up on what's been happening after having had a nice winter break in warmer climes.

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Goodbye my friends.

by StephaneLaliberte in

jw
friends

for almost 12 years now, i have been coming to this site on a regular basis and in the last 5, i “faded out”.

i never regretted this and never will.

unfortunately though, yesterday, i realized that, until i can publically tell all my old acquaintances why i have left, i will never be truly free.

The Fall Guy

Best wishes Stephane for a happy future without any JW-speak in it.

What a glorious thought - but sadly, many of us have to fade gently without triggering the apostate alarm.

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Babylon The Great and JWs

by Ireneus in

jws teach babylon the great is the whole empire of false religion.

interestingly, bible’s definition of it would include jws also because it is the entity “that rules over the kings of the earth.” (rev 17:18) since revelation is given in symbols (rev 1:1) “kings” cannot be literal, but can mean minds of people because mind acts like king over everyone’s bodily kingdom.. no one exerts power over the minds of jws like their gb does.

just like members of other religions blindly follow what their leaders teach, jws too do—even when changes that are introduced under the guise of “new light” are virtually numerous.

The Fall Guy

Grammatically & logically, since Babylon the Great is defined as "the mother of the harlots," (plural) then clearly "she" cannot be a single worldwide conglomerate of religions, but rather the single greatest "harlot" which engendered all the rest.